Behind the Glass Gallery Year 2 Anniversary
This podcast episode commemorates the 2nd Anniversary of the Behind the Glass gallery. We reflect on the journey we have undertaken over the past two years, highlighting the significant contributions of various artists who have graced our walls. The episode captures the essence of our recent anniversary event, where a diverse array of artworks was showcased. Join us as we celebrate this milestone and look forward to the future of our vibrant artistic community.
Mentioned in this episode:
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Behind the Studio Door
Behind the Studio Door, hosted by Molly Darling and Christian Rivera, takes listeners on a captivating exploration of artists and their creative processes. Through deep and meaningful conversations, they uncover the stories and experiences that shape the outward expression of their work. https://behind-the-studio-door.captivate.fm/
Transcript
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Speaker A:And we're here.
Speaker A:We're recording live.
Speaker A:We're actually live streaming here at the second anniversary for behind the Glass Richard Cologne.
Speaker A:What is going on?
Speaker B:I'm excited, man.
Speaker B:Two years.
Speaker B:It's been a long journey.
Speaker B:And excited to keep it rolling for year three.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just took a.
Speaker A:Just took a look around the gallery.
Speaker A:I realized I missed a few weeks just because of travel and everything.
Speaker A:But, yeah, man, I remember so many of the conversations that we had through the year on the podcast.
Speaker A:You know, seeing some of the people on there.
Speaker A:And I'm really glad I'm getting to see some of the people I missed here at the anniversary event.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker B:I think the whole idea that we initially had for this gallery was to have a group show of a lot of people.
Speaker B:And since it kind of like shifted into every month, three artists deal, I'm excited that we are still able to.
Speaker B:Kwaji and I are able to still tap into that group show setting where we have multiple artists.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it's a great scene, and I love being able to have everybody come back and it's great.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:You know, beautiful day.
Speaker A:We just got everything opened up.
Speaker A:People are starting to show up.
Speaker A:We're just a little after 6pm yeah.
Speaker A:Hoping for a nice turnout on a day like today, and hopefully people get to really enjoy what's going on.
Speaker A:I was gonna say, is there anything specifically when you were setting up that you really enjoyed that you got a chance to see something new when you walked around?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:See, what's great about this is that when I asked, like last year, when I asked the artists from the first anniversary show to provide a work so they can display, I said you could use something that you already had.
Speaker B:But, you know, prior in the gallery and almost every single person year one chose to do something different that they didn't showcase on the walls.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we have that same thing going for this.
Speaker B:You know, this year, everybody that I asked to bring something back, these are all still unique pieces that weren't on the gallery already.
Speaker B:So it's really great that they're able to showcase still another part of their collection for people to still view and actually appreciate.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A: these were, you know, January: Speaker B:March, actually.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, that's right.
Speaker A:March.
Speaker A:We had a couple.
Speaker B:Well, January was their first reception, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, but yeah, no, yeah.
Speaker B:So our beginning year started March.
Speaker B:So we do have less artists than we had last year because we were able to start, you know, two months in.
Speaker B:But again, yeah, seeing the growth from certain artists that were in the beginning of the year to now and seeing that a lot of the recurring, you know, people that have been, you know, on these walls are able to actually come back and support the other artists every month.
Speaker B:It's been a joy to see that.
Speaker B:It's been great.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's so I don't remember, are we planning for February, taking a little break after this?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So these walls will have these for two months.
Speaker A:So January and February and we'll start back up in March.
Speaker B: March will be our, you know,: Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I'm really excited about that because this, this one, my favorite, you know, one of my favorite shows every month is to sit with everybody and learn about people and see where they're going.
Speaker A:Because this is the journey of where we've seen some of the artists from the first year.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:To what's going on this year for them.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker A:And we've covered some of that on beyond the Glass.
Speaker A:It's been great to see just the ev of this community and how much it's expanding.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's been a joy.
Speaker B:And I think that's what's the joy of having the beyond the Glass episodes as well.
Speaker B:Cuz we're able to tap back into artists that were on the walls at once.
Speaker B:And again we try and get to double dip that with these reception shows.
Speaker B:So this is great.
Speaker B:I'm excited.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:Well, I think what we're going to do, we're going to jump off and we'll be joined by somebody else very soon for sure.
Speaker A:On the behind the Glass second anniversary live recording, no doubt.
Speaker A:And we're back with somebody who hasn't been in behind the Glass but is part of the Lunchador podcast network, Aaron Pascucci.
Speaker A:How you doing today tonight, man?
Speaker A:Hello, everybody.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker A:Level up in the house.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, it's exciting to, exciting to have you here.
Speaker A:And we were talking last night.
Speaker A:You've been taking a lot more pictures yourself trying to getting back in it.
Speaker A:These guys are actually a big inspiration to get out and shoot more, so.
Speaker A:Well, it's something about going out and seeing all the people who haven't been on a gallery wall before kind of, you know, and seeing people come out and look at their work is A very inspiring thing.
Speaker A:Well, and it's.
Speaker A:These guys are great photographers, but, you know, they're not, like, they're not famous, so to speak.
Speaker A:And I hope they don't take that offensively, but it's like, it's inspiring.
Speaker A:Like, oh, they're like, me, I can do this too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And last time I was here, that was what everybody was saying is, yeah, you should be doing this too, which is super cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's a great thing.
Speaker A:So what.
Speaker A:What kind of.
Speaker A:What kind of pictures you've been taking so far?
Speaker A:Always been inspired by graffiti.
Speaker A:So all of these guys who are doing a lot of street photography are super cool to see.
Speaker A:A number of them were hit in, like, the abandoned buildings and things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Rock street photo was one I found early on.
Speaker A:Nick and super cool guy, you know, unlike me.
Speaker A:Saw him two shows in a row over at Frank's.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And the second time I showed up, I was gonna prepare to be like, hey, remember I met you last time?
Speaker A:And he came right up and was like, hey, Aaron, how are ya?
Speaker A:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker A:And I was like, look at this guy.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, he's.
Speaker A:He's such a, you know, he's really working, doing the work of building community and growing his own area, which is such a great thing to see that it's not just, you know, it's an expansion of this, but it's seeing where everybody's going with it that's really exciting.
Speaker A:And then the other cool thing was I just mentioned, you know, I had started following him and was local, and he.
Speaker A:He came right over.
Speaker A:He said, oh, you got to meet this guy.
Speaker A:I was like, who's this guy?
Speaker A:He goes, oh, you know, his handle, you know.
Speaker A:So he introduced me, like, two other guys there, I think.
Speaker A:Vector Rastered.
Speaker A:Who?
Speaker A:Dave, if my poor memory is remembering Dave Towns.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So super cool.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:I'm glad you got a chance to come out for this tonight.
Speaker A:I'm hoping we have a great turnout and a lot of people get to come out and see all the 20, 24 photographers.
Speaker A:Sounds like a plan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right, thanks for joining over here.
Speaker A:Thanks for guys.
Speaker A:Hey, thanks, you too.
Speaker A:Enjoy the art and check out the Level Up Coffee podcast on the Lunch Adore Podcast Network, wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker A:And we're back with gentlemen.
Speaker A:I had a great conversation with at Ugly Duck over the weekend last weekend.
Speaker A:Jo Tell, how you doing today?
Speaker B:Hey, doing all right.
Speaker B:How are you?
Speaker A:Oh, things are.
Speaker A:Things are great.
Speaker A:It's great to see everybody show up.
Speaker A:We were here at six.
Speaker A:I'm like, wait, nobody's here yet.
Speaker B:Well, you know, everybody has to be fashionably late.
Speaker B:So that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A: groups in behind the glass in: Speaker B:Yeah, I was their first cohort for year two.
Speaker B:So I was pretty excited.
Speaker B:The big switch to last Friday and a lot of, A lot of changes for behind the Glass.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, it's been good.
Speaker A:I know we're going back to first Friday next year.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I think it was a great fit for this year to see where the community was growing.
Speaker A:And I know you've gotten a chance to, you know, expand a little bit.
Speaker A:And you actually just had had some stuff up over at AM FM Cafe as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, my stuff will be up at AM FM all month.
Speaker B:Month of January, so that'll be fun.
Speaker B:It was, it was a big night.
Speaker B:A lot of people showed up.
Speaker B:It was a lot of fun.
Speaker B:Kind of nerve wracking having to choose, you know, a dozen pictures versus three.
Speaker B:I thought that was gonna be easier.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, that'd be plenty.
Speaker B:And then I looked at my list and it was like, 50 pictures.
Speaker B:I can't fit 50 pictures in there.
Speaker B:I can fit maybe a dozen.
Speaker B:So it was like, okay, whittle down, whittle down, whittle down.
Speaker A:Though I did get a chance to go over and see it the other day after we hung out at Ugly Duck.
Speaker A:So I went and went and checked it all out and yeah, it was what a nice selection of stuff.
Speaker A:And I was really glad to see.
Speaker A:I got some digital, got some, you know, got some film stuff in there.
Speaker A:And there was like completely different feels, even though they're capturing similar subject matters.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, so many people always, you know, oh, oh, film.
Speaker B:Oh, digital.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Why not both?
Speaker B:Yeah, why not both?
Speaker B:For years, people thought that photography wasn't an art form, but it is.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Only because they weren't accustomed to it.
Speaker B:And now digital, back when digital first came in, I remember people telling me, oh, that's not real photography because it's not filming.
Speaker B:But it is, it's real photography.
Speaker B:So, yeah, a lot of fun.
Speaker A:Photography is the practice as much as anything else.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:It's the process.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And you have anything you're working on right now trying to develop skills, Anything particularly you're trying at the moment.
Speaker B:You know, I have a little studio space and I really enjoy having people come by and just tinker around.
Speaker B:Yeah, I would Rather be the guy that's the foundation of somebody else's skill than have to be the guy, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I don't want to be the man.
Speaker B:I don't want to be the focus of attention.
Speaker B:I'd like to be the guy that people come to going, you know what?
Speaker B:I've got a problem and I would really like help.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:So I think that's.
Speaker B:I think that's where my role is in this world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Being the guy to help.
Speaker A:I was going to say that sounds a lot like super related to Matt.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm the silent partner with Lunchador.
Speaker A:I'm Matt.
Speaker A:So I'm Chris's co founder.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah, I relate to that completely.
Speaker A:I'm the guy that's, you know, in the basement making sure everything's working okay, you know, boiler suit guy.
Speaker A:So I get that completely.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Getting down and dirty, it's fun.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Well, because that's the stuff that makes all these, you know, the communities actually run.
Speaker A:Because in the end, you need the people who are, you know, on the grind doing, doing the work that needs to be done.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And, you know, so much of it, so much of what we just assume is skill that we have is skill that's learned and if we don't pass it on, it's going to be lost like any other skill.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like being a plumber or being an electrician or being just any sort of layperson where you know how to do these things.
Speaker B:I remember being a technician for a company and I was having the biggest problem.
Speaker B:And one day one of the older technicians came, looked over my shoulder and goes, oh, look, look at.
Speaker B:I know what that problem is.
Speaker B:I was working on that thing for two weeks.
Speaker B:That guy came walking and goes, I know exactly what that is.
Speaker B:And I fixed the problem.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, and it's one of those things where at some point you realize, oh, right, I'm the expert.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can help people with the skills.
Speaker A:It's super fulfilling to pay that forward.
Speaker A:It's the best practice.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker A:So, Joe, where can people find you online if they want to check out the rest of your work?
Speaker B:Well, you can find me@justjoephoto.com.
Speaker B:that's where I do an occasional blog.
Speaker B:As a matter of fact, I need to update that poor thing because it's.
Speaker B:It's been way too long since I've touched that.
Speaker B:And you can also find me on Instagram at just Joe Photo.
Speaker B:I Like, to keep it pretty simple.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then, like you said, your stuff will be up at AM FM for the rest of the month.
Speaker B:For the rest of the month of January.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So this should be out during there.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, go check out Joe's work over there.
Speaker A:Really enjoyed the pictures.
Speaker A:And thanks for swinging over, man.
Speaker B:Hey, man, thanks.
Speaker B:Love talking to you guys.
Speaker A:See you soon.
Speaker B:All right, thanks.
Speaker A:Take care.
Speaker A:Thanks, man.
Speaker B:Thanks, Jerry.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:All right, we're here with the one, the only, Eric Layman.
Speaker D:Oh, hi.
Speaker D:Oh, hi there.
Speaker A:Look.
Speaker A:Look at you.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're really making it comfortable for everybody online.
Speaker D:Oh, it's online?
Speaker A:Yeah, we're live streaming right now.
Speaker A:Fair warning, we're streaming to YouTube and allegedly Instagram, but I don't know if Instagram is working.
Speaker D:I'm just going to see if I can keep.
Speaker D:Keep.
Speaker A:So if you want to do some, like, Romper Room shit and just start calling people out by name.
Speaker D:Sweet.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker D:Hey, Ronnie.
Speaker D:Hey, Jammy.
Speaker D:Jen.
Speaker D:Just make everybody.
Speaker A:Just make everybody really uncomfortable.
Speaker D:I mean, that's.
Speaker D:Isn't that life?
Speaker D:Here, we're going to.
Speaker A:I see you.
Speaker A:That's a lovely bathroom you're in.
Speaker D:Hey, what's going on in there?
Speaker D:Maybe it's time to flush soon.
Speaker A:So, Eric, how's it going tonight, man?
Speaker D:It's going well.
Speaker D:I really wanted to keep staring, but.
Speaker D:Yeah, I mean, you're talking to me now, so I get it.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:You can do that as much as you want, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's actually.
Speaker A:It's great to see everybody starting to show up for the second anniversary.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, good crowd turning out now.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:I couldn't miss it.
Speaker A:This is one of my favorite things every year now is, like, seeing how many people turn out and seeing all the stuff on the wall for the second year.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And I remember we were talking on behind the studio door and we were talking about, like, you're, like when you were taking a step back from doing as much active gallery work and then you did a whole.
Speaker A:Then you did a whole crazy gallery.
Speaker D:I do a thing or two.
Speaker A:I like, after all that discussion, we're like, oh, yeah, now I'm doing this whole thing that's going to bring in tons of people and I'm going to do tons, tons of work, video and all these different skateboard things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:How was that whole experience doing that?
Speaker D:It's exhausting.
Speaker D:No, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D: rs of doing my own, you know,: Speaker D:I had grand plans, what I wanted to do.
Speaker D:Hey, Kwajay, what's up?
Speaker D:How you doing?
Speaker D:Hold on a second.
Speaker D:Wanna quit?
Speaker D:Slide in real quick.
Speaker D:All right, we'll get you.
Speaker D:I'll get you.
Speaker D:But, no, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker D:It's one of the rare shows where I had, like, this crazy, crazy idea and I probably got, like, 99.5% of what I was trying to get done done.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker D:You know, maybe.
Speaker D:Maybe a little less, you know, maybe 99.
Speaker A:But the fact that you get to 99 is incredible.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:You know, there's things that I would have added to that one.
Speaker D:I just didn't have the bandwidth.
Speaker D:Doing it largely the solo, you know, as far as the, you know, I had an incredible team of folks and volunteers who jumped in to help me hang that thing.
Speaker D:It's brutal.
Speaker D:It was a brutal thing.
Speaker D:But, you know, all the logistics, all the other stuff, you know, was pretty much just.
Speaker D:Just me, mainly.
Speaker D:But, yeah.
Speaker D:But no, it was awesome.
Speaker A:And I do have to say, it really did turn out awesome.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You know, going there and seeing just the reception itself, like, that was just fantastic.
Speaker D:You know, it's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:I'm really happy that, you know, that was 15.
Speaker D:Almost 15 years in.
Speaker D:People still show.
Speaker D:Wait, no, 16.
Speaker D:It was 16.
Speaker D:Sweet 16.
Speaker D:Or, you know, 15 and a half.
Speaker D:Whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:People will still come out for nine to five stuff.
Speaker D:So that made me happy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And I gotta say, and, you know, to, you know, to your, I don't know, influence over time to see the next generation of things like behind the glass.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Take the mantle of building the next generation of community.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Is like, for me, it's very gratifying to see what's going on.
Speaker D:I don't know how big this is.
Speaker A:You're good.
Speaker E:You're great.
Speaker D:I'm not going leaning, I guess.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, you're right in the pocket.
Speaker A:You're good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a very Spike Jones look.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's in.
Speaker A:To see, you know, to see the community and even the spikes off of this already see all the spokes that are coming off of behind the glass.
Speaker A:Just in the last two years, you.
Speaker D:Know, one of the things I was, you know, I had to do a lot of driving on the holidays and was just thinking about art and Rochester and all that stuff.
Speaker D:And one of the things that, you know, that I kept coming back to is just how.
Speaker D:How strong the inactive the photo community is right now, like, at this point.
Speaker D:And, you know, behind the glass is a huge part of that, you know, And I was like, counselor, you know, having a conversation with someone who's trying to, you know, make some changes, figure out some things and.
Speaker D:And you know, I told him, like, come to behind the Glass, you know, they've got an opening coming soon.
Speaker D:And like, you know, there's this.
Speaker D:All these different, you know, subsets of.
Speaker D:Of photographers finding each other and.
Speaker D:And becoming super active.
Speaker D:And it's.
Speaker D:It's cool.
Speaker D:You know, it's like that's.
Speaker D:There's like this huge wave of that.
Speaker D:And, you know, I've been around long enough to, you know, I had.
Speaker D:But broke, you know, tiny.
Speaker D:The Rochester Image City pin, you know, way back in the day, you know, and to me, it'll always be that.
Speaker D:And to see, you know, the, you know, since behind the glass is largely, you know, photo centric, but to see that really coming forth and again, organically and, I don't know, it's just cool.
Speaker D:It's cool to see it thriving.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:Anything you have coming up right now, Eric, or you kind of just.
Speaker D:I gotta finish taxes.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Don't say words.
Speaker A:Good luck, man.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker D:Yeah, I'm still doing paperwork stuff for the sketchy show.
Speaker A:Oh, that's gnarly.
Speaker D:Just.
Speaker D:Cause I, you know, I switched between RIT and this, and I had to switch hats real fast, so I'm now in the part I've been pushing off.
Speaker D:It's a little too long.
Speaker D:You know, we, you know, contrary to a certain local publications headline saying wall therapy calls it quits, we just had a pretty cool meeting this morning.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker D:A very prominent wall in progress.
Speaker D:It's gonna take a while, but you pay attention.
Speaker D:In the fall, we're gonna hopefully be announcing some.
Speaker D:Some stuff.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm excited for that.
Speaker D:You know, we hoping to do a little more mural stuff this summer with that.
Speaker D:Yeah, Other than that, I got a.
Speaker D:I'm still.
Speaker D:I.
Speaker D:I'm not rested.
Speaker D:I didn't get a restful break.
Speaker D:I'm so tired.
Speaker D:You deserve a little bit of rest here, 24.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Just trying to figure out.
Speaker D:I am trying to figure out, you know, what kind of.
Speaker D:What else to do.
Speaker D:I want to make more stuff.
Speaker D:Stuff this year.
Speaker D:Oh, that'd be nice to switch.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I'VE been kind of like, have some projects that didn't get finished last year that I want to finish up and, you know, switch that hat, you know, be on the other side for a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But, you know, I'm sure I'll burn the candle at it the whole way through.
Speaker D:Just throw.
Speaker D:I'm gonna throw in the fire.
Speaker D:Well, I'm not gonna waste.
Speaker A:That's how it goes.
Speaker A:You have a finite amount of time.
Speaker D:You might as well use as much.
Speaker A:As you can, right?
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I'm excited to, you know, when.
Speaker A:When you got enough ready to actually announce, we'll happily have you over.
Speaker A:We'll do it over there and we'll make it happen for you.
Speaker D:There's this.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:Yeah, we had some interesting conversations this morning.
Speaker D:Some stuff.
Speaker D:Stuff's in the.
Speaker D:In the cooking.
Speaker D:That's so good to hear.
Speaker A:Hey, whenever you're ready, I'll be there for you, bud.
Speaker A: Cooking and Eric Lehman,: Speaker A:Thank you for coming over, brother.
Speaker D:You're welcome.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:And we're back with our next photographer, our next artist guest.
Speaker A:Introduce yourself, please.
Speaker F:My name is Rachel Coutant.
Speaker F:My pronouns are they, them, and she.
Speaker A:Her.
Speaker F:And my brand is impassioned art.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:So many colors, so many interesting portraits.
Speaker A:I saw all.
Speaker A:All over the place on the Instagram and always so identifiable, too.
Speaker F:I appreciate that.
Speaker A:I remember we talked about it on the behind the Glass podcast when we did that.
Speaker A:And I'm interested.
Speaker A:What have you been working on since you were in the gallery originally?
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F: So for: Speaker F:And so one of the pieces that I have in the show tonight actually is one of the images that I'm going to use for the deck.
Speaker F:And I basically, in the last several years, have been learning more about tarot.
Speaker F:I think it's a really good way to process emotions and process mental states in general, even if you don't want to use it as a spiritual practice.
Speaker F:And so my work fits in really well for building a surreal kind of eerie deck.
Speaker A:Well, and I gotta say, like I did last year, I didn't even get to see all the stuff in here.
Speaker A:So I took a walk around before everybody got here, and.
Speaker A:Yeah, and I saw it.
Speaker A:I'm like, how would you describe the picture you have in there right now?
Speaker A:Because it's a lot in the best possible way.
Speaker F:Yeah, it's been very powerful to work with the topic of grief over the Last year, being somebody who's been closely following Free Palestine, who's been closely following a lot of global issues, and then also went through grief of a family member, of losing a family member this year, and other forms of grief.
Speaker F:2024 was very laden with a lot of grief and more so than I'd probably experienced prior.
Speaker F:And so I really have just.
Speaker F:I kind of have an eternal scream in me.
Speaker F:And so I really wanted to represent that through a photograph.
Speaker F:And this was my way to represent global grief and the idea of it.
Speaker F:And I can explain it for anybody you know that hasn't seen.
Speaker F:Seen it.
Speaker F:But it's on my Instagram page.
Speaker F:It's called Global Grief, and it's me standing on a mountaintop with this channel of, like, energy and light going through me.
Speaker F:And the way I like to think about it is there's this channel of grief always on that mountain.
Speaker F:And we can choose to step into it and feel it and it changes us, but we don't necessarily change it because the world is.
Speaker F:Is kind of endlessly in this cycle of grief and rebirth and grief and rebirth, but that it's our duty sometimes to just feel it.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker A:I think that's an interesting.
Speaker A:I think the critical word in there, because we're all people, too, and it's hard to live in it all the time, is we can't always be in it because we're going to burn ourselves to the ground.
Speaker F:Exactly.
Speaker A:And not be able to build our communities, our current communities in where we are now.
Speaker F:Exactly.
Speaker A:And it's always tough.
Speaker A:Which are the things you spend your mental energy on, which are the things that you dive into and that it's always a tough thing if you're paying attention, which is the thing that you're going to invest your emotional energy and not just your physical energy.
Speaker F:Oh, yeah.
Speaker F:And I've had to do so much and continue to do so much inner work figuring out what that looks like of, like, okay, what things do I give my energy to?
Speaker F:How much do I give in each season?
Speaker F:How can I care about things deeply but also, like, survive mentally as just a person trying to live in this world?
Speaker F:And I do think sometimes it's my duty to step into that channel of grief and feel it with all of humanity and carry it, and then there are times to step out of it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I'm glad we got into a philosophical conversation about grief on the behind the glass.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:That's part of this, too, because it can be light.
Speaker A:It can Be fun.
Speaker A:And photography and visual arts can be impactful and diving into the core of a person.
Speaker A:And when I walked through the gallery, I saw all of that today.
Speaker A:I saw from the most intense to super light and funny.
Speaker A:And what a great thing that we got to see all the different creative thoughts together on a wall.
Speaker A:And it's discordant and so harmonious at the same time.
Speaker F:Yeah.
Speaker F:And it's so beautiful to look at all the different pieces and think about what inspired each artist individually, because there's a lot of diversity on the wall, and it's so interesting to see what different people's eyes catch or what inspires them.
Speaker F:But, yeah, I also love.
Speaker F:And one of the reasons I like talking about grief in general.
Speaker F:And honestly, it's funny that you're like, yeah, we're talking about grief on this live, because pretty much, if you start a conversation with me, you're gonna get into something deep and philosophical, and that's how it goes.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker F:But one of the things that I really love about art is that it has been used throughout history for revolution, for feeling less alone, for knowing.
Speaker F:Like, it's just such a powerful tool that people don't sometimes underestimate.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And I think the thing I can say about when I.
Speaker A:When I'm looking at, you know, how many people are out right now and the vibrancy of the people that are out to here is when we're engaging in positivity and being around things and seeing people really engage with the art on the walls and pay attention, this is the stuff that makes me feel like we have a chance to do good things, to be better than we were before is community.
Speaker A:And I remember I was reading something, you know, it's not my community, but it was, you know, somebody talking about, hey, what we're going to have is community in the real word of it is, you know, the integrated community of everybody helping each other.
Speaker A:It's the direct support that's going to be the thing that gets us through the tough times.
Speaker A:And not community as a theoretical.
Speaker A:It's the real community that's being built with things like this and real conversations and not the false.
Speaker F:That's just like throwing around the term community.
Speaker F:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker F:And supporting each other.
Speaker F:I mean, I wouldn't be where I am in life if I didn't have a lot of support.
Speaker F:And even being given the opportunity and being thought of to even be invited to this gallery is another boost for me as a person.
Speaker F:So seeing a gallery filled with people that are just wanting to support each other is a huge thing for community.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:That was pretty awesome.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:And we're going to be talking more.
Speaker A:I'm excited to.
Speaker A:Excited to see all the ideas you have inside of you and it seems like there's tons of ideas all the time.
Speaker F:Oh, yeah.
Speaker F:I have a hard time narrowing it down.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So again, where can people find your work online and follow your work so people can see what's going on?
Speaker F:Folks could find me@impassionedart.com that's my main website.
Speaker F:But you can also, if you want to follow me on Instagram, you can follow me passionedart or H the crouton7 if you want to follow my personal.
Speaker F:I will also be teaching a workshop about self portraiture at Reef, the Rochester Erotic Arts Festival come April.
Speaker F:So that's another place that you can find me and potentially learn from me.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Thank you so much for swinging over and we'll talk very soon.
Speaker F:Thank you.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:We're here with gentlemen doing lots of interesting stuff, collaborating, building their own different community.
Speaker A:Gentlemen, introduce yourselves, please.
Speaker C:Hi, I'm Matt Banderle.
Speaker C:I own a company called Hungwell Art Services.
Speaker C:I custom frame things, I curate, I set up exhibitions about town, do a lot of nice things.
Speaker C:And the thing I'm grateful that you guys let me talk about tonight is an exhibition called Thaw in its third year, the Yards Art Collective that I'm co curating with Nick and Rivka Simka and Abby Luby this year.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker C:In March.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:So coming up in March.
Speaker A:Super excited about that.
Speaker A:Like, how did you.
Speaker A:You get involved more this year, right, Nick?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm a voluntary subsidiary of Hungwell Art Services at this point.
Speaker C:Subcontract, I don't get.
Speaker A:I don't get paid for many things, but that's okay.
Speaker A:I like to be creative and help out with some of the things that Matt might not like doing.
Speaker A:So if you guys would like to sponsor any part of the show, go ahead.
Speaker A:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:Sounds good.
Speaker A:And I think part of the exciting part about doing, you know, expanding the stuff as it goes along is you can't keep on doing the same thing and feel like you're progressing, feel like you're getting to the next step and bringing in super talented people like Nick and Rivka.
Speaker A:I apologize, I don't know the other person yet.
Speaker A:But like having talked to Rivka a few times behind the studio door and obviously on behind the Glass as well, like having different perspectives, having More people involved has to be, like, a great benefit to you as somebody helping to create something.
Speaker C:Well, Thaw's an interesting exhibition.
Speaker C:It's something that we've kind of built and expanded on over the last three years.
Speaker C:Part of that process has been bringing in a different team of creatives every year in order to curate the show.
Speaker C:But it's also been this question of, like, how do people look at and experience an art show?
Speaker C:What separates Thaw from a lot of exhibitions is that it has this deeply interactive quality to it.
Speaker C:Viewers who come to the space do things like they choose the music by selecting vinyls and engaging with a record player.
Speaker C:There's opportunities to write.
Speaker C:There's opportunities to throw light and collage and really, like, move within the space.
Speaker C:And part of what makes that work is we have four awards.
Speaker C:Those awards are valued at $100 a piece.
Speaker C:But the way our exhibition is juried is that it's voted on by the people who come to the.
Speaker C:To the show.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So we've got QR codes located around the space that folks can use to view, vote on the works in four different categories, and all of it is determined by those who show up and are the patrons to the show.
Speaker C:So it's a really.
Speaker C:I, as a teacher and as a curator and an artist, have been really focused on engagement and how people interact with art shows for a while now.
Speaker C:And Thaw's kind of the best expression I have so far in terms of building that engagement and giving people the opportunity to really look and read and process and engage and feel the work, as opposed to just take a look and keep it moving.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:And what are you excited about as part of the show, Nick?
Speaker A:Being more involved in the other aspects that Matt would usually do for his shows, like learning the more curative aspects as opposed to just the.
Speaker A:This is how you hang a show.
Speaker A:This is how you contact artists.
Speaker A:It's more of just like getting.
Speaker A:Getting my feet wet in different things because, I mean, I've been a creative funk lately, and just now I'm putting more time towards getting more things out to the community, doing a lot of stuff, you know, behind the scenes that I'm not ready to even announce ideas about yet, but the ideas are moving into play and.
Speaker A:Yeah, so that's kind of where I'm at in my artistry right now.
Speaker A:Well, it's tough.
Speaker A: I mean, I know even in: Speaker A:Focusing on the network and sometimes it's great just to be doing the work, and then the inspiration will come back.
Speaker A:I know that's how I end up getting there eventually, is by just doing work for a while.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:It leads you to different places that you may not have anticipated.
Speaker A:So I think.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I kind of want to go back to the interactivity piece because I feel like that'll bring a lot of people in that wouldn't ordinarily go to a show.
Speaker A:Do you find that that's the case where you kind of get folks that usually wouldn't come out to an art show, but kind of word of mouth or what have you hear that there's that piece of it and kind of join in thought does.
Speaker C:And, you know, part of it, you know, you were.
Speaker C:You were talking about repetition, and at this point, I was feeling that heart.
Speaker C:A few years ago, I felt like I was sort of just stuck in this Groundhog's Day of the year in terms of, like, art and presentation.
Speaker C:Thaw is the only thing that I really plan on repeating and plan on continuing to repeat.
Speaker C:And the reason for that is, like, there's always been this really cool magic about this exhibition.
Speaker C:I've seen a lot of different kinds of artists come to that space in terms of, like, younger artists, emerging artists.
Speaker C:I've seen folks like Rivka, actually, for the piece she has on the Wall and Behind the Glass right now, that won an award at Thaw, and then it won an award at Roko, and then it appeared at behind the Glass, and then it, you know, it's.
Speaker C:Legend grows.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:And that's started.
Speaker C:Honestly, can't remember.
Speaker C:I think it was the first one, but it might have been the second one that Rivka submitted that piece to.
Speaker C:And now Rivka is also a curator with the exhibition.
Speaker C:And there's a lot of, like, little stories like that.
Speaker C:I think one of my favorite was a young woman submitted work to the show.
Speaker C:She got accepted by the curatorial team.
Speaker C:She reached out and said, you know, I don't really know how to present this.
Speaker C:I don't know how to frame it.
Speaker C:And I was like, oh, okay, we can do something about it.
Speaker C:And I got a text from a friend of mine who joined the military and moved away.
Speaker C:And he pointed out the fact that I was building a frame for his little sister, who I had not seen since she was, like, 5 years old.
Speaker C:So it's like, oh, wow.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's just this, like, it.
Speaker C:The show is full of coincidences.
Speaker C:And it does.
Speaker C:It is very much.
Speaker C:I've always seen it as like, in terms of curation, the goal of Thaw is not to parse through and edit the very best works and only the very best of the best, but the goal of the show is really to find an excuse to include as many of the artists as possible and to really create a opportunity for folks to maybe show for the first time.
Speaker C:Time.
Speaker C:And, you know, kind of the same mission of behind the Glass.
Speaker C:So it's, it does bring out a lot of folks who don't generally come see the arts, but I think it also brings out a lot of folks who are used to this, are used to doing this.
Speaker C:And what I find is that they also find unexpected opportunities in it, because it really is.
Speaker C:As a curator, I have this philosophy of irreverence.
Speaker C:I spent a lot of time early in my career working with Christie's auction house and, and really like lifting and carrying and handling and unframing and hanging, like the.
Speaker C:The biggest of the biggest, you know, and in the shrine in the temple, so to speak.
Speaker C:And I really just.
Speaker C:They're just pictures, you know?
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:They're just pictures.
Speaker C:And like, yes, they have meaning, yes, they have movement.
Speaker C:But there's this whole idea of like, art is magical, but it's like, it's not the art that's magical.
Speaker C:It's like us creating community and fellowship through conversation and presentation and sharing of ideas.
Speaker C:Like, that's, that's the sauce, you know.
Speaker A:It'S more the democratization of it and not just keeping it as this, like, high end commodity.
Speaker A:It's bringing it out for the people.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:And, you know, you get to, you get to the last level of this game and it's Mark Rothko, who's been dead since like the 80s.
Speaker C:You watch a painting sell for $225 million and it gets added to a spreadsheet and it's like, what?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Who does art serve?
Speaker C:Why does it serve them?
Speaker C:These are the questions that I try and answer when I curate and put together exhibitions.
Speaker C:It's like, why?
Speaker C:Why are we doing this?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And these important questions, and so many more will be answered in full at Thaw in March over at.
Speaker A:Where is this?
Speaker A:Where's that located?
Speaker C:Can I please throw?
Speaker A:Oh, please, please do.
Speaker A:I was just going to ask if you have the opening date.
Speaker A:And this is at the Yards, right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, the opening date is going to be first Friday, March 7th.
Speaker C:But the one I would love for people to focus on right now is the submission deadline.
Speaker A:Oh, there you go.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So the submission deadline is February 9th.
Speaker C:If you are interested in being a part of this exhibition, please submit to us by February 9th.
Speaker C:And you can submit either by clicking the link in my Instagram attvanderly or you can go to the Yards website.
Speaker C:And somewhere in my dumb phone I have that website.
Speaker C:Here we go.
Speaker A:That's always how it works.
Speaker C:Www.theyardsrogister.com Thaw T H A W W W the yardsrogister.com Thaw and that's three W's courtesy of the curator behind the Glass, Richard Colon, who felt very strongly that the third show should be represented by a third W.
Speaker C:Love that.
Speaker A:All right, guys, well, thanks for swinging over and we'll be back very soon.
Speaker A:Looking forward to the show.
Speaker A:The next.
Speaker A:See you.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A: of the photographers from the: Speaker A:Why don't you introduce yourself real quick?
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker E:So I'm Dakota Maxwell.
Speaker E:I was one of the artist from July.
Speaker E:July to August, Yeah.
Speaker A:So I mean you're.
Speaker A:So you're back in the anniversary show.
Speaker A:Did you bring something new for this one that you didn't have in the one in July?
Speaker E:Yes, I did.
Speaker E:I brought a new picture, the piece that I brought for this show.
Speaker E:So I actually took it like right at the end of like the session I was in last.
Speaker E:So I feel like if I would have had it by the time lapse section, I would have put it in.
Speaker E:But no, the piece I brought to this show is one that personally has been one of my favorites for a while.
Speaker E:I've been, I guess I've struggled to like find like a good spot to put it because I know like some of the last galleries like had like, I don't know, I was kind of focusing for a bit of like a Rochester theme, at least with the last one.
Speaker E:But I'm like, okay, like behind the Glass alumni show.
Speaker E:I mean like, like just my theme to do whatever I want.
Speaker E:I want this picture and you know, so.
Speaker A:No, that's awesome.
Speaker E:Definitely.
Speaker A:So for folks who maybe haven't seen your work before, how would you describe it?
Speaker E:I do a fair amount of like nighttime kind of photography, kind of kind of a little bit of a blend between like nature and like street photography.
Speaker E:So not really as many like people in the pictures.
Speaker E:I try to mainly go for like maybe like cool looking buildings or scenes or like skies or just anything like that kind of.
Speaker E:I don't really Have a thing that I particularly, like, I feel like look out for.
Speaker E:I just kind of wander around.
Speaker E:I'm like, oh, is that a cool scene?
Speaker E:I'm like, oh, yeah, I gotta get a picture of that.
Speaker E:So.
Speaker E:But there isn't.
Speaker E:Most of the time, there isn't anything, like, specific.
Speaker E:I'm going like, oh, I gotta get a picture of this.
Speaker E:I kind of just hobble around and look for cool shots, basically.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Anything you've been working on recently that you're, you know, you're trying out something new that you've been working on?
Speaker E:A little bit.
Speaker E:I've been trying to change my style up a little bit.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker E:I feel like a lot of my pictures, I have a very, like, similar editing style.
Speaker E:I kind of almost like a muscle memory at this point for a lot of the stuff I feel.
Speaker E:I'm like.
Speaker E:I go into, like, lightroom to edit my pictures.
Speaker E:I'm like, okay, I pull the slide around here a little bit.
Speaker E:This, you know, standard kind of stuff.
Speaker E:And I don't know, I feel like I've been a little bit burnt out lately about doing the same thing.
Speaker E:I know I've been a bit inspired by some other styles.
Speaker E:So, like, my style is, like, pretty, like, sharp and, like, contrasty.
Speaker E:So especially, like, nighttime or stuff like that, there's a lot of, like.
Speaker E:Like, sharpness into it.
Speaker E:And I've been, I guess, feeling inspired by a lot of other pictures.
Speaker E:I have a bit of, like, a hazy, like, a graininess to it.
Speaker E:Like.
Speaker E:Like, I guess, kind of look like film in a sense.
Speaker E:So kind of, like, the lights have a bit of, like, bloom to them and everything and that type, like.
Speaker E:And there's like, a strong, like, singular color that, you know, it's, like, tinted over everything.
Speaker E:And I've been, like, pretty inspired to try and figure out how to capture a bit of that style, a bit of that, I guess, like, aesthetic in terms of, like, when I'm going out, taking pictures, and then, like, my editing style trying to break out of, like, I guess, my box that I've set for myself in the past in terms of editing.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:No, I love to hear that.
Speaker A:Because, you know, trying something new offers the opportunity to grow.
Speaker A:Offers you the chance to, you know, figure out where you want to be, what's the message you want to portray.
Speaker E:Definitely.
Speaker A:Very cool.
Speaker A:Where can people find your stuff?
Speaker E:So I primarily post most of my stuff on Instagram, so ecotamaxualphotography, that's my main platform where I post all my pictures.
Speaker E:And I like the whole meta thing.
Speaker E:I also have threads linked to that and then a Facebook profile.
Speaker A:But it's where we were just talking about before, where you sat down.
Speaker A:Everything is kind of interconnected, the whole meta platform and.
Speaker E:Yeah, but Instagram is like the main, like everything's kind of forked off of that and that's where I most active.
Speaker E:That's like where I am.
Speaker E:And then the threads on Facebook thing, it just kind of gets like auto shared to them.
Speaker E:So I'm there every so often.
Speaker E:But face or.
Speaker E:But Instagram is like my home, essentially.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:Well, Dakota, thank you so much for swinging over.
Speaker A:Hope you enjoyed the rest of of the night and hopefully you'll see out at more behind the Glass events coming up.
Speaker E:Thank you for having me on.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Thanks for coming out.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:All right, thanks.
Speaker A:Take care.
Speaker E:Hi, mom.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:We are here for behind the Glass second anniversary guests.
Speaker A:Why don't you introduce yourselves?
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker A:This is Carmen Lewis.
Speaker F:I was in the December cohort.
Speaker E:Hi.
Speaker A:This is Joe Delaria.
Speaker A:And I was also in the December cohort.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, you both pronounced that correctly, so you're one step past Richard Colon.
Speaker B:This is his party.
Speaker A:Why you gotta be like that?
Speaker A:It's so much more fun that way.
Speaker A:So I didn't get a chance to come out for the December one.
Speaker A:I was out of town.
Speaker A:But did you end up bringing something different for the anniversary show using something from that?
Speaker F:Yeah, I actually brought a different photo altogether.
Speaker F:I brought a black and white image from London.
Speaker F:It was when I was walking the high street, which is the title of my piece.
Speaker F:And yeah, it's just a black and white photo of a double decker bus.
Speaker A:The stars that run along the high.
Speaker F:Street and kind of felt like the London vibe.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:I just had one of my pastels that I brought for the December cohort.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:Pronounced it right again and decided to call it Beachy McBeach Face.
Speaker A:It's a great title.
Speaker A:Pastel of a beach.
Speaker A:And I actually ended up one of Carmen's friends here actually ended up buying one of my pastels.
Speaker A:First purchase?
Speaker A:Yeah, first purchase.
Speaker A:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker A:Congrats.
Speaker A:Officially an artist now.
Speaker F:Behind the Glass does work, y'all.
Speaker A:Well, I think that's a great thing though.
Speaker A:Like have, like have your personal work up and have somebody want to buy it is.
Speaker A:It's one of those things.
Speaker A:We've seen it a few times where people were on the wall for the first time.
Speaker A:People sold something for the first time.
Speaker A:What a great feeling that is.
Speaker A:It did feel really good for someone to actually see my art and say, hey, that's cool enough for me to buy.
Speaker A:Especially for me, since I just kind of did it for myself.
Speaker A:And other people are like, hey, I like it.
Speaker F:She's psyched.
Speaker A:That's great.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:I think those are the things that always grab me with the experience of being involved with this is you can see the evolution in people's work and the way they feel about what they're doing through the process of being shown, through the process of everything else.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If you want to supplement your income and you think you're not a great.
Speaker D:Artist like me, but everyone.
Speaker A:Every artist kind of feels like that, I guess.
Speaker A:But I think.
Speaker A:So get to behind the Glass and put yourself out there.
Speaker A:Shout out Kwajay and Richard for the.
Speaker F:Thousandth time, like, y'all do the work.
Speaker A:Thank you for that.
Speaker A:And thanks to you all for doing the podcast.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Appreciate you both showing up.
Speaker A:Put out the plugs where people can find it if they want to see the work or buy even more stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker F:I actually just changed my Instagram handle to Wanderlust and Micro Moments on Instagram, so come find me and check out my photography.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:I don't really use Instagram, but I'm in a band called the Honey Smugglers, so go check them out, because we just released a vinyl, and it's good to listen to.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Congratulations on that, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hopefully we'll be able to learn more about that on our music show in Rochester.
Speaker A:The nights and weekends coming up very soon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So thanks for swinging over, and we'll be back soon.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Hi, Mama.
Speaker F:Hi, Mom.
Speaker A:This has been a presentation of the Lunch or Podcast Network.
